Thanks Jim, fascinating research. Two questions for your scenario here.
1) What evidence is there that the BSL4 lab had Egyptian fruit bats rather than Chinese bats? Didn't you say the point of using the WIV was to test it in Chinese bats? But it doesn't infect Chinese bats, right?
2) What evidence is there that the BSL4 lab shutdown in early October was still going on at the end of November? That seems a long time to shut a lab.
1a) No evidence of Egyptian fruit bats in Wuhan, but it was a well known lab bat used for experimentation in Germany (FLI), Atlanta (US CDC), and now Montana BSL4 (RML). Fruit bats eat fruit to easy to keep alive in captivity.
1b) Yes the entire purpose of the $14M DARPA Defuse proposal was to develop a bat vaccine/treatment on US soil (e.g. in fruit bats) and test in Wuhan on live Chinese bats. There was a lot of evidence for Wuhan keeping "wild-caught" Chinese horseshoe bats, but they eat insects so very hard to keep alive in captivity. In other words, the only place on planet to test this Defuse product was in Wuhan. reference the end of part #7.
1c) No (in vivo) publications showing Chinese bats infected with SARS2. I believe someone would have published those needed results if it was true. Basically the results were 'published' when the bat vax called SARS2 leaked from a Wuhan lab. They were trying but failed.
2a) I put a lot of emphasis on the NBC cell phone report, because the mobile phones belong to 2 members of DARPA Defuse team (Linfa and Dani). The long lockdown was a "hazardous event."
It's kind of confusing, but Dani was in BSL4 from June to Oct 2019 (page 20) and takes a selfie photo on Nov 29 2019. She leaves Wuhan but apparently comes back in early 2020. Her boss Linfa visits the BSL4 Nov 24-30 (page 12), takes photo of Dani in BSL4 and both leave town but Linfa resigned Jan 10, 2020.
So in your scenario, Dani is trying to infect Chinese bats with the SARS2 bat vaccine but fails because it doesn't in fact infect them - which is what she discovered. Is that right? But that it would fail to infect them is not something that would have necessarily been expected, hence the experiment?
I thought the cell phone report only showed a shutdown 7-24 October. Are you saying it actually showed a shutdown from 7 October to 30 November?
Basically, yes, her task was to try and infect Chinese bats with DARPA Defuse type genomes. Sounds like there was an event that shutdown entire BSL4 facility and her experiment was the one that leaked and spread around the world. The timeline on page 5 showed Linfa's cell phone on Nov 30 and said "traffic remains light at BSL4 into Dec 2019."
The new NIAID Chinese bat lab in Colorado will try to answer our question in 2025.
Hi Jim. Do we know what Munster's involvement was with the PREEMPT project? Is he named on either of the winning teams? When you say he won the PREEMPT funding, what are you referring to - that people from his lab won, or more direct involvement on his part? Thanks.
Whoa. This is good content
Thanks Jim, fascinating research. Two questions for your scenario here.
1) What evidence is there that the BSL4 lab had Egyptian fruit bats rather than Chinese bats? Didn't you say the point of using the WIV was to test it in Chinese bats? But it doesn't infect Chinese bats, right?
2) What evidence is there that the BSL4 lab shutdown in early October was still going on at the end of November? That seems a long time to shut a lab.
1a) No evidence of Egyptian fruit bats in Wuhan, but it was a well known lab bat used for experimentation in Germany (FLI), Atlanta (US CDC), and now Montana BSL4 (RML). Fruit bats eat fruit to easy to keep alive in captivity.
1b) Yes the entire purpose of the $14M DARPA Defuse proposal was to develop a bat vaccine/treatment on US soil (e.g. in fruit bats) and test in Wuhan on live Chinese bats. There was a lot of evidence for Wuhan keeping "wild-caught" Chinese horseshoe bats, but they eat insects so very hard to keep alive in captivity. In other words, the only place on planet to test this Defuse product was in Wuhan. reference the end of part #7.
1c) No (in vivo) publications showing Chinese bats infected with SARS2. I believe someone would have published those needed results if it was true. Basically the results were 'published' when the bat vax called SARS2 leaked from a Wuhan lab. They were trying but failed.
2a) I put a lot of emphasis on the NBC cell phone report, because the mobile phones belong to 2 members of DARPA Defuse team (Linfa and Dani). The long lockdown was a "hazardous event."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/report-says-cellphone-data-suggests-october-shutdown-wuhan-lab-experts-n1202716
It's kind of confusing, but Dani was in BSL4 from June to Oct 2019 (page 20) and takes a selfie photo on Nov 29 2019. She leaves Wuhan but apparently comes back in early 2020. Her boss Linfa visits the BSL4 Nov 24-30 (page 12), takes photo of Dani in BSL4 and both leave town but Linfa resigned Jan 10, 2020.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/6884792/MACE-E-PAI-COVID-19-ANALYSIS-Redacted.pdf
Great questions, so let me know if I answered it?
Thanks Jim.
So in your scenario, Dani is trying to infect Chinese bats with the SARS2 bat vaccine but fails because it doesn't in fact infect them - which is what she discovered. Is that right? But that it would fail to infect them is not something that would have necessarily been expected, hence the experiment?
I thought the cell phone report only showed a shutdown 7-24 October. Are you saying it actually showed a shutdown from 7 October to 30 November?
Basically, yes, her task was to try and infect Chinese bats with DARPA Defuse type genomes. Sounds like there was an event that shutdown entire BSL4 facility and her experiment was the one that leaked and spread around the world. The timeline on page 5 showed Linfa's cell phone on Nov 30 and said "traffic remains light at BSL4 into Dec 2019."
The new NIAID Chinese bat lab in Colorado will try to answer our question in 2025.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-12720837/nih-covid-lab-colorado-leak-theory.html
Thanks Jim. I wrote this up here https://dailysceptic.org/2024/01/30/is-this-the-man-who-created-covid-19-in-faucis-u-s-lab/. Hope I've got all the facts right, but let me know if you spot any mistakes.
Wow, you nailed it! You are what we always needed, a professional writer to summarize the crazy evidence pointing at Munster and RML!
No changes, just more evidence since 2 of 5 winning DARPA teams were working with Munster and RML
https://www.darpa.mil/news-events/2019-02-19
I couldn't figure out what DARPA (and UC Davis) meant by 'novel' vaccine until reading this Max Planck scientist
http://web.evolbio.mpg.de/HEVIMAs/journalist-faqs.html
https://www.ucdavis.edu/news/9m-preempt-zoonotic-spillover-threats-protect-military-and-local-communities
Hi Jim. Do we know what Munster's involvement was with the PREEMPT project? Is he named on either of the winning teams? When you say he won the PREEMPT funding, what are you referring to - that people from his lab won, or more direct involvement on his part? Thanks.
Thanks Jim!