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Pete Lincoln's avatar

Did Baric ever write that section showing how the vaccination work would not drive evolution in a negative way ? If so I must of missed it or it went over my head. I am convinced one of the purposes of mass vaccination (animal or human) with non sterilizing immunity vaccines may in fact be GOF

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Jim Haslam's avatar

Good question, I don't think so. Searched the world 'evolution' and/or 'drive' and got 0 from him. Baric doesn't seem to consider his method vaccination? He called it "targeted immune boosting" meaning "aerosolized immune stimulants (polyIC)."

Daszak's noted: "Also, we MUST make it clear in proposal that our approach won’t drive evolution the wrong way (e.g. drive evolution of more virulent strain that then becomes pandemic. This needs to be explained in detail (RB will draft this section)"

One possible hit?

"Finally we will determine the time frame the treatment will be effective until re-colonization or evolution will cause a return of a high-risk SARSr-CoV to the population."

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Jim Haslam's avatar

"Ralph Baric’s approach is not vaccination. Rather his approach aims to boost the immune response against specific viral proteins (potentially to include innate immune response). Vaccination in bats not likely to work. Very limited antibodies from natural viral infection in bats. Viruses already common in bat population - not likely to challenge bat immune response with a vaccine"

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dawn's avatar

Imo. Not a "lab leak". That is shade casting.

Wonder why Graphene Oxide and WHO knows what else was in the 2019 flu jabs? 🤔

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